Sartin on place and show betting

[dadams6357]

Storm
The following book" Beat the Racetrack by William T. Ziemba (1984-11-03".
in their book they found that there were inefficiencies between the win place and show pools. So if you look at the total win pool of lets say horse 1 and the same for place and show. One may be do better betting the place and show. Better ROI (return on investment) and less risk.
If you like page after page of mathematical equations this is the book for you.
A side story...Radio Shack use to sell this little hand held half computer half calculater.
It took me llke 2 weeks trying to put all the formulas in.
Then my nephew and niece stopped by...picked up the comp/calc and stated whats this button. Before I could say or shout a word like stop. They pushed the button and there went two weeks of work. A nothing like having curious children around.
Anyways if you go to Twinspires they show the percentages of win/place/show pools on each horse (i think). You might be able to ball park it. Like i stated before the book is a bit much unless your like Dick then you would enjoy a read or two.
You might go to Chatgp also known as CoPilot and ask there free AI...there pretty good for answering questions. Might have what you need there.
Good luck handicapping.
Don

[gandalf380]

Dr Ziemba was a regular at our meetups in Saratoga the last two or three years before he died. Very nice man and a true genius.

[dadams6357]

Gandalf
Never met him but that he was. He stated that the Stock Market was easier to play
than the ponies.
Don

[raceman5]

I have the book Exotic Betting at the Racetrack. W.T. Ziemba

Drop me a line if interested

Bob

[raceman5]

I also have Handicapping Two-Year- Old Thorobreds
Betting With an Edge By Mike Maloney
Off The Charts. By Nick Borg.

Just drop me a line if any interest in these.

Bob

[DanBoals]

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I cannot remember what Doc advised to bet place and show bet at could anyone help me? I think it was 10-1 bet place and higher than 15-1 show, too. ALSO, could someone please tell me where the instructions to upload to this site is so i can learn how. Thank you for helping me with this for about the 10th time sorry it's like quitting smoking cigs if you fail keep trying

thank all about place and show betting look at the last race at Santa Anita Monday

storm

Hey

I try to read up the old stuff before the Kentucky Derby every year and I am going thru the 55% Solution right now and saw this on page 68.

Dick Shmidt is talking about Howard picking a 90-1 horse to show and getting a $17 show payoff on a $2 bet and being proud of it.

His method was pretty simple according to Dick anyways, if there was one horse he was sure could beat a longshot, and maybe a second horse that might have been better, then the longshot should SHOW. Hard to argue with that logic, honestly.