Class and APV - Pace and Cap

socantra · 04-10-2007, 02:05 PM

Ted,

I'd like to request that you consider the possibility of adding a Class/APV calculation to the RDSS array. Its only 2 figures and possibly a ranking, and the calculations are simple. It takes up little room and would fit nicely on the top bar where the projected pace sits.

As far as the calculations, Dick Schmidt had a couple of articles in the early Follow Ups that discussed the rating in some detail. I would be happy to look those up, but I would also suggest that the person who has probably done as much work with Class/APV as anyone is PIRCO charter member and our own Pace N' Capper Robert Cochran.

Dick

Ted Craven · 04-10-2007, 05:27 PM

Dick,

Absolutely, those have been requested more than a few times, and I have been collecting sources for a definitive formula. I'm looking through my early FUs right now, I have the section in the Yellow Manual which Bill V identified. Just details, things like using Turf data when today is turf, when to use last 2 years, when to use current year only.

Of course, software knows what the purse value of each race was and the horses finish position (though not purse apportionment), so we can make a detailed calculation from up to the last 12 races (or more if more races have accumulated).

(That article was FU #5, Page 7)

Bob C, (or anyone else), if you can suggest any further specifics or nuances, I'd love the guidance.

Thanks Dick.

Ted

socantra · 04-21-2007, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

(That article was FU #5, Page 7)

Ted,

I finally found the article I was searching for. There is a followup article to the one you mentioned by Dick Schmidt in FU #9, Page 52, titled "Some Thoughts On and additions to the Revised Class Factor".

Dick

Ted Craven · 04-21-2007, 02:33 PM

Dick,

Found it, many thanks!

Ted

admin · 04-21-2007, 02:34 PM

Ted and Dick

I also added these two another CR APV thread up in the forum

Here are the pages
http://www.bindfold.com/Issue5s_pages%207_15.pdf
http://www.bindfold.com/Issue9s_pages%2052-54.pdf

04-10-2007, 02:05 PM	#1
socantra Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 387	Class and APV Ted, I'd like to request that you consider the possibility of adding a Class/APV calculation to the RDSS array. Its only 2 figures and possibly a ranking, and the calculations are simple. It takes up little room and would fit nicely on the top bar where the projected pace sits. As far as the calculations, Dick Schmidt had a couple of articles in the early Follow Ups that discussed the rating in some detail. I would be happy to look those up, but I would also suggest that the person who has probably done as much work with Class/APV as anyone is PIRCO charter member and our own Pace N' Capper Robert Cochran. Dick __________________ "Ils Sont Partis"

04-10-2007, 05:27 PM	#2
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,252	Dick, Absolutely, those have been requested more than a few times, and I have been collecting sources for a definitive formula. I'm looking through my early FUs right now, I have the section in the Yellow Manual which Bill V identified. Just details, things like using Turf data when today is turf, when to use last 2 years, when to use current year only. Of course, software knows what the purse value of each race was and the horses finish position (though not purse apportionment), so we can make a detailed calculation from up to the last 12 races (or more if more races have accumulated). (That article was FU #5, Page 7) Bob C, (or anyone else), if you can suggest any further specifics or nuances, I'd love the guidance. Thanks Dick. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™ Last edited by Ted Craven; 04-10-2007 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Found the FU article.

04-21-2007, 02:33 PM	#4
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,252	Dick, Found it, many thanks! Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

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04-21-2007, 02:34 PM	#5
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Pdf Ted and Dick I also added these two another CR APV thread up in the forum Here are the pages http://www.bindfold.com/Issue5s_pages%207_15.pdf http://www.bindfold.com/Issue9s_pages%2052-54.pdf