What's Wrong with this Picture? - Pace and Cap

Turbulator · 07-24-2007, 02:53 AM

An appropriately named horse.

chris · 07-24-2007, 04:15 AM

What do you think, another 10 years to notch the 2nd win? I was beaten earlier today by a horse wearing a 35 and 1 record. It happens.

More and more, I'm staying away from those chaos tracks that feature so many chargers with those unenviable records. They look more like endurance contests than races. The laurels often go to the last one standing.

Granted, you can stumble on to some hefty mutuals, however you can find good prices at the better tracks as well, and the horses are less likely to suffer the infirmities from overacing, aging, and just plain unsoundness.

Improving the "Breed" has never been an a stated objective of MNR, and the product they present is the only product they have. In the interest of my own equilibrium, I choose to look elsewhere.

Regards,
Chris

Turbulator · 07-24-2007, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chris

What do you think, another 10 years to notch the 2nd win? I was beaten earlier today by a horse wearing a 35 and 1 record. It happens.

I don't believe I've ever seen a 10 year old maiden. It only took him 69 tries.

At Playfair Race Track many years ago they used to have the Rocking Chair Handicap--for ten year olds and up.

That was an event.

xtb · 07-24-2007, 10:28 AM

Zippy Chippy, 100 losses retired at 13, still a maiden. He's now a "pet" at Finger Lakes a few miles from me. He was banned from more than one track for biting other horses and acting unruly.

emilio840 · 07-24-2007, 02:54 PM

HI. At major tracks they never let 5 year or older maidens run unless they changed that rule now.

What about jockeys. I found a lone early horse a couple months ago at sax or hol and I bet on it. I watched the race and I couldn't believe on how bad the horse ran. It ran more like a sustain horse than early. I then checked the jockey and saw that he has had 60 mounts and still did not have a winner, a second or a third.

emilio

Houndog · 07-24-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by emilio840

HI. At major tracks they never let 5 year or older maidens run unless they changed that rule now.

What about jockeys. I found a lone early horse a couple months ago at sax or hol and I bet on it. I watched the race and I couldn't believe on how bad the horse ran. It ran more like a sustain horse than early. I then checked the jockey and saw that he has had 60 mounts and still did not have a winner, a second or a third.

emilio

I look at these types of stats also. I know we are mainly concerned about the horse, but when I come across such negative trainer or jockey stats that you illustrate I will think twice before betting on a horse unless the odds justify the risk. Joe Tackach used to have a list called "Prolific Losers" where he profiled trainers and jockeys.

Some of the records were horrendous.

tom · 07-25-2007, 09:11 PM

But Zippy chippy did beat a harness filly, and is 2-1-0 against baseball players!

07-24-2007, 02:53 AM	#1
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	What's Wrong with this Picture? An appropriately named horse. Attached Images __________________

07-24-2007, 04:15 AM	#2
chris Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richfield, MN Posts: 182	"The picture" What do you think, another 10 years to notch the 2nd win? I was beaten earlier today by a horse wearing a 35 and 1 record. It happens. More and more, I'm staying away from those chaos tracks that feature so many chargers with those unenviable records. They look more like endurance contests than races. The laurels often go to the last one standing. Granted, you can stumble on to some hefty mutuals, however you can find good prices at the better tracks as well, and the horses are less likely to suffer the infirmities from overacing, aging, and just plain unsoundness. Improving the "Breed" has never been an a stated objective of MNR, and the product they present is the only product they have. In the interest of my own equilibrium, I choose to look elsewhere. Regards, Chris

07-24-2007, 10:28 AM	#4
xtb Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western NY Posts: 111	Zippy Chippy, 100 losses retired at 13, still a maiden. He's now a "pet" at Finger Lakes a few miles from me. He was banned from more than one track for biting other horses and acting unruly.

07-24-2007, 02:54 PM	#5
emilio840 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I live in Toronto, Ontario, can Posts: 220	HI. At major tracks they never let 5 year or older maidens run unless they changed that rule now. What about jockeys. I found a lone early horse a couple months ago at sax or hol and I bet on it. I watched the race and I couldn't believe on how bad the horse ran. It ran more like a sustain horse than early. I then checked the jockey and saw that he has had 60 mounts and still did not have a winner, a second or a third. emilio

07-25-2007, 09:11 PM	#7
tom Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 645	But Zippy chippy did beat a harness filly, and is 2-1-0 against baseball players!