Give It A Try - Pace and Cap

shoeless · 04-12-2008, 01:32 PM

3rd at Tampa today

tfm · 04-12-2008, 02:05 PM

Who's the choice, for the program challenged?

shoeless · 04-12-2008, 02:20 PM

I dont think your program challenged but it looks like the 6 with the 5 and 8

Ted Craven · 04-12-2008, 02:30 PM

Not bad, Jeff

Just from you screenshot, I'd have also made the case that the #2 was the counter-energy horse (and best Deceleration) and deserved to be in an exacta somewhere.

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shoeless · 04-12-2008, 02:33 PM

Well the 6 won but I blew that ex .,Syn 4 had given me 6,2,5 and that's what it exactly came in.RDSS had it as well as the 6 looked great up top and the 2 was tied for 2nd VDC.The ex only paid 23.00 but I would have taken it.Jeff

Ted,Maybe I need lessons from you on the readouts

tfm · 04-12-2008, 02:36 PM

Yeah, I haven't seen the race

but I was confused with the P designation for the 2, since he had the lead at the QTR pole his last 4 races.

It didn't appear as if he'd had an easy time of it on the lead today

however

I was impressed by his last race where he led, got challenged, drew off, only to tire late

Ted Craven · 04-12-2008, 02:48 PM

John,

That P (Presser) is an Energy-disbursement designation, not a visual designation. The horse is clearly an Early runner, but in that line Jeff chose, the horse disbursed its energy to the 2nd call in a median fashion (P), rather than what is more typical for it: mostly E or EP. This software makes a distinction (or complimentary analysis) involving visual positioning and where in a race it uses its available energy.

Ted

shoeless · 04-12-2008, 03:21 PM

Im glad that Ted explained it because I sure didnt know how.The other speed in the race No7 Mr.D'Or was scratched so that left it wide open for the 2.I thought the 8 would apply more pressure but didnt.

tfm · 04-12-2008, 03:26 PM

Exactly, with the other speed scratched, the 2 was loose

and still couldn't get it done

Thanks for the explanation

shoeless · 04-12-2008, 04:25 PM

Tfm,If you look at that 2 horse pp's he has done that before where he got a clear lead and chucked the bit or gets to the lead and hangs.Even if using the match up he appears the only speed I wouldnt waste a dime on him to win.Plus the fact the 6 had a class advantage as well.Jeff

Sorry to put this here Ted but I was just tyring to explain about the horse in the RDSS screen.If you want to delete or move it it's ok.Jeff

04-12-2008, 01:32 PM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	Give It A Try 3rd at Tampa today Attached Images

04-12-2008, 02:30 PM	#4
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,258	Not bad, Jeff Just from you screenshot, I'd have also made the case that the #2 was the counter-energy horse (and best Deceleration) and deserved to be in an exacta somewhere. __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

04-12-2008, 02:48 PM	#7
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,258	John, That P (Presser) is an Energy-disbursement designation, not a visual designation. The horse is clearly an Early runner, but in that line Jeff chose, the horse disbursed its energy to the 2nd call in a median fashion (P), rather than what is more typical for it: mostly E or EP. This software makes a distinction (or complimentary analysis) involving visual positioning and where in a race it uses its available energy. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

04-12-2008, 04:25 PM	#10
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	Tfm,If you look at that 2 horse pp's he has done that before where he got a clear lead and chucked the bit or gets to the lead and hangs.Even if using the match up he appears the only speed I wouldnt waste a dime on him to win.Plus the fact the 6 had a class advantage as well.Jeff Sorry to put this here Ted but I was just tyring to explain about the horse in the RDSS screen.If you want to delete or move it it's ok.Jeff Last edited by shoeless; 04-12-2008 at 04:29 PM.

04-12-2008, 02:05 PM	#2
tfm Former member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,136	Who's the choice, for the program challenged?

04-12-2008, 02:20 PM	#3
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	I dont think your program challenged but it looks like the 6 with the 5 and 8

04-12-2008, 02:33 PM	#5
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	Well the 6 won but I blew that ex .,Syn 4 had given me 6,2,5 and that's what it exactly came in.RDSS had it as well as the 6 looked great up top and the 2 was tied for 2nd VDC.The ex only paid 23.00 but I would have taken it.Jeff Ted,Maybe I need lessons from you on the readouts

04-12-2008, 02:36 PM	#6
tfm Former member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,136	Yeah, I haven't seen the race but I was confused with the P designation for the 2, since he had the lead at the QTR pole his last 4 races. It didn't appear as if he'd had an easy time of it on the lead today however I was impressed by his last race where he led, got challenged, drew off, only to tire late

04-12-2008, 03:21 PM	#8
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	Im glad that Ted explained it because I sure didnt know how.The other speed in the race No7 Mr.D'Or was scratched so that left it wide open for the 2.I thought the 8 would apply more pressure but didnt.

04-12-2008, 03:26 PM	#9
tfm Former member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,136	Exactly, with the other speed scratched, the 2 was loose and still couldn't get it done Thanks for the explanation