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Old 05-24-2008, 09:26 AM   #11
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Hi everybody.

Bill

Your method is what I've been doing, except that I will hide any in the top 3 that is less than 5/2. I'm not at your win rate though.

I've been doing Belmont this week and have been having the same trouble Froggy and some of the others have. Until I read that thread, I thought it was just me. It was quite a comedown from last week.

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Old 05-24-2008, 09:38 AM   #12
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Hi Barb

about hiding anythng under 5/2
I did that back in the day - Its what Doc suggested
These days I can only do one or two races a day
so basically like this title says if I start a race
I have to attack it. If all my reaouts say the # 1
rated horse is the winner I am not going to hide and bet against it
because the odds are low I rather would make the win bet on it
and look at the other contenders for a nice place or show bet
If I had more time and the chance to do many races
I would hide
Today I have to attack when I get the chance

Your doing great

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Old 05-24-2008, 10:54 AM   #13
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I figured since Pino and Bill did such a fine job listing then so would I


1)I go through the races at the tracks Im playing and mark which races I will look at.I only play sprints with horses that have won at least 2 races and turf events

2)Check conditions of race and see who qualifys as a contender

3)I go through each horse and circle the 1's in the 1st and 2nd call then will circle the times.Im doing a kind of Match Up Pizzolla's way he explains this in FU 8

4)I will cross out the horses who I feel cannot compete in today's race

5)pick pacelines will try not to go more then 3 back if possible prefer last race

6)run CJ'S numbers to confirm my anaylsis and further narrow down

7)take remaining horses and run through Synergism 4


I would like to add something here to the mix

BIGGEST WEAKNESSES


1) Not having a good money management plan mapped out before races start[this is a downfall of many astute players]

2) Not being able to interperate info correctly that is before me to be able to profit from the race[i will say 80% percent of the time I have the winner in top 3 at least this was happening when Tampa was running]
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:21 PM   #14
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Shoe,

Thanks for starting this thread as it has been very helpful. Lately I have been very unorganized about paceline selection, analyzing output and wager capping. Your post and the others are helping me develope a consistent game plan.

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Old 05-24-2008, 12:40 PM   #15
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Bud,No problem but I hope that you will also post on how you go about it there is no wrong way.


By the way you deadbeats out there in Binder land have outdone yourselves 276 views and only 3 people have made an effort to post how they go about attacking a race.CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:23 PM   #16
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opinion

Jeff
you have the right to say stuff like that but
Please refer to the site as Pace and Cap
The term Binder land make it seem like I am involved and share your
view , which I don't
It would be very helpful if more people would post
there steps
I could not be happier with the method I use
But seeing what works for a few more posters would make me feel better



But If they don't post it it might be for reasons other than being
"deadbeats"

Be patient and kind and goodness will follow

I really hope you continue to do well

Thanks
Bill
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:11 PM   #17
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Bill,Binder land and deadbeats were made in a joking matter if you wish delete it from the post.It seems lately when you post something here it's like walking on eggs.Jeff

I am a little surprised that Richie and Ted Craven didnt chime in with a list but I guess they have their reasons.I better sign off for now before I crack some more eggs.

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Old 05-24-2008, 09:36 PM   #18
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How will your horse run today

-LOVE-
Patient, kind, strond, never-ending,
determined, persevering, forever hope-sending,

confident,commited, it always pulls through,
always fights, always wins, always knows what to do,

ferocious and fearsome yet gentle and kind,
encompassing spirit, body and mind,

hardy and fruitful, can never be killed,
it's a matter of choice and a matter of will,

confusing, bewild'ring, sometimes even strange,
giving and forgiving, it gives birth to change,

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Old 05-25-2008, 09:35 AM   #19
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Different days require different approaches - "Mind's Eye"

First thing I do is open the pp's to a race. ANY race. Why?

Hoping to get a gauge of how sharp my mind is at THIS time.

After scrolling the field once or twice if things just are not "talking to me" or seem foggy I know that this session will be one of VERY limited spot plays. Matter of fact only TWO will be in play and I will check 6-8 tracks to find some plays. My 2 EASIEST to spot and work because the mind is not fully there TODAY.

a) Races where there are 2 earlies who will kill each other setting the race shape winner as O.T.E. I will look for and bet the horse sitting 3rd in the pp's against today's 1st call and 2c pace. That's my horse.

b) Races where there are 3 matching earlies all running against a 1st call pace within 1 tick of each other. I'll use that pace/throw all the earlies out/ then find the horse who sits 4th at the 1c against that pace and runs well.That's my horse.

If he isn't present in todays race I move to the horse sitting 5th or 6th but who shows a POWER MOVE from 2c-sc. MUST be in THIS segment and NOT from sc-finish. That's my horse.
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IF on the other hand that initial scrolling of the race shows me that things ARE sharp mentally I will open things up and work many races from my favorite tracks:
Ap
Bel
Pen
Ct
Mnr
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:52 AM   #20
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Bill,?????????????????????????really dont know why you put that here.
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