Mia - Pace and Cap

shoeless · 06-22-2008, 02:03 AM

Admin,Worried about you my friend.Jeff

admin · 06-22-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless

Admin,Worried about you my friend.Jeff

Hi Jeff I am real good Thanks for asking and thanks for checking up on me
Things are going real well I have not posted much, The reason is because I'm doing the
same old basic sartin stuff and I think nobody wants to hear that old tune

I have been having fun I have a new girlfriend so I have been busy with her
Things are going great because she has not learned what a dope I am yet

I have some behind the scenes issues with the website
so I have been working on them

As usual when I get real busy like I am I tend to do real well at the races
so then I do more races and then I get more busy

Any how I am doing well and having fun
thanks and I will see you soon

Bill

shoeless · 06-22-2008, 09:23 PM

I have not posted much, The reason is because I'm doing the
same old basic sartin stuff and I think nobody wants to hear that old tune

Bill,As I wrote to you in a e mail earlier this is the one of the things I admire about you is that you stick to what works and continually profit from it.

On the flip side I have to tip my racing form to another pal Pino.When I first met him he was keeping databases and averging running times and betting nothing but ex's.
Now since he has started following the teachings of Taulbot he has done away with all of that just uses the racing form and betting one horse to win.I have been using the form for 40 years and now Im getting good advice from him how to use it.

Two different situations but both of you guys are winners in my book.Jeff

gl45 · 06-24-2008, 09:43 AM

Thank you Jeff,
I made the big leap...

admin · 06-24-2008, 10:12 AM

Thank You Jeff

I guess it all comes down to crunch time
what am I going to do ?? I know it and I respect the group
so I'm gonna do it the way I always do

Kick your tail in gear Bill
and just think about working races with Doc right behind you
It worked then It works today and thats what I need

Pino From a phone call a few months ago Its great news
to hear you are hitting so well

GS
BIll

gl45 · 06-24-2008, 03:50 PM

Bill,
Ray Taulbot readings convinced me to reformulate my approach to handicapping.
Stick with the facts in front of you, don't try to force a contender when is not.
Wage on one horse only at odds of 3-1 or better. No Pick3-4-5-6, no tris, no exactas.
When you can not decide between two horses contenders, PASS the race.
No maidens, no MSW, no races unless the field is 7 horses full after scratches.
Read and understand Race Conditions, what kind of horses are running in the race.
There is no escape, the POR is what dictate the outcome of the race.
Understanding the intricacies of the POR in a horse's pp, in order to make an accurate contenders selection is not that difficult. Handicapper have a tendency to look for factors that are no relevant in today's race, they split hairs, I was one of those. Today POR is different from last race POR. That all is matter.

partsnut · 06-25-2008, 04:42 AM

lbj: "Wager on one horse only at odds of 3-1 or better. No Pick3-4-5-6, no tris, no exactas.
When you can not decide between two horses contenders, PASS the race."

Pino: A few months ago, you said I was becoming a pain in the butt and criticized me for expressing the very same opinion. You sure are singing a different song these days. I forgive you. your still a good guy.

I guess we all have tendencies to sing different songs when playing this game.

I do like what you wrote and the change in your thinking. Your on the right track,

Turbulator · 06-25-2008, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by partsnut

lbj: "Wager on one horse only at odds of 3-1 or better.

If your one horse win-rate is 50% (or less) than that of your two-horse win-rate, then betting two 3-1 shots to win will achieve the exact same results (or better) than those of betting one 3-1 shot to win.

partsnut · 06-25-2008, 08:15 AM

Turbulator:

Quote:

If your one horse win-rate is 50% (or less) than that of your two-horse win-rate, then betting two 3-1 shots to win will achieve the exact same results (or better) than those of betting one 3-1 shot to win.

I have to disagree with you here.

Betting 1 horse to win at 3-1 and winning gives you back $ 8.00 = $ 6.00 profit ( a true 3-1 return)
Bettinp 2 horses to win at 3-1 and winning gives you gives you back $ 8.00 = $4.00 profit ( Thats an even money bet and a diminished return).

Thats quite a big difference.

For those that have to bet 2 horses I wish you lots of luck because in the long term you will need it.

Betting 2 races with 2 picks as opposed to betting 2 races with 4 picks would be throwing away 2 bets and can never be compared or considered the same.

gl45 · 06-25-2008, 08:23 AM

Turb,
I'm not interested in betting 2 horses. If I can't decide between 2 horses at odds better than 3-1 I will pass the race. Horse A odds 5-1....Horse B odds 7-1...If, based on my handicapping factors, I can not eliminate 1 of the 2 top horses I PASS.

06-22-2008, 02:03 AM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	Mia Admin,Worried about you my friend.Jeff Last edited by shoeless; 06-22-2008 at 02:05 AM.

06-24-2008, 10:12 AM	#5
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	same Thank You Jeff I guess it all comes down to crunch time what am I going to do ?? I know it and I respect the group so I'm gonna do it the way I always do Kick your tail in gear Bill and just think about working races with Doc right behind you It worked then It works today and thats what I need Pino From a phone call a few months ago Its great news to hear you are hitting so well GS BIll

06-25-2008, 04:42 AM	#7
partsnut BetMix User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,433	lbj: "Wager on one horse only at odds of 3-1 or better. No Pick3-4-5-6, no tris, no exactas. When you can not decide between two horses contenders, PASS the race." Pino: A few months ago, you said I was becoming a pain in the butt and criticized me for expressing the very same opinion. You sure are singing a different song these days. I forgive you. your still a good guy. I guess we all have tendencies to sing different songs when playing this game. I do like what you wrote and the change in your thinking. Your on the right track, Last edited by partsnut; 06-25-2008 at 04:48 AM.

06-22-2008, 09:23 PM	#3
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,655	I have not posted much, The reason is because I'm doing the same old basic sartin stuff and I think nobody wants to hear that old tune Bill,As I wrote to you in a e mail earlier this is the one of the things I admire about you is that you stick to what works and continually profit from it. On the flip side I have to tip my racing form to another pal Pino.When I first met him he was keeping databases and averging running times and betting nothing but ex's. Now since he has started following the teachings of Taulbot he has done away with all of that just uses the racing form and betting one horse to win.I have been using the form for 40 years and now Im getting good advice from him how to use it. Two different situations but both of you guys are winners in my book.Jeff

06-24-2008, 09:43 AM	#4
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	Thank you Jeff, I made the big leap...

06-24-2008, 03:50 PM	#6
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	Bill, Ray Taulbot readings convinced me to reformulate my approach to handicapping. Stick with the facts in front of you, don't try to force a contender when is not. Wage on one horse only at odds of 3-1 or better. No Pick3-4-5-6, no tris, no exactas. When you can not decide between two horses contenders, PASS the race. No maidens, no MSW, no races unless the field is 7 horses full after scratches. Read and understand Race Conditions, what kind of horses are running in the race. There is no escape, the POR is what dictate the outcome of the race. Understanding the intricacies of the POR in a horse's pp, in order to make an accurate contenders selection is not that difficult. Handicapper have a tendency to look for factors that are no relevant in today's race, they split hairs, I was one of those. Today POR is different from last race POR. That all is matter.

06-25-2008, 08:23 AM	#10
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	Turb, I'm not interested in betting 2 horses. If I can't decide between 2 horses at odds better than 3-1 I will pass the race. Horse A odds 5-1....Horse B odds 7-1...If, based on my handicapping factors, I can not eliminate 1 of the 2 top horses I PASS.