Best Sartin Program - Pace and Cap

shoeless · 10-02-2008, 11:29 PM

If used the correct way as outlined in the manual Synergism 2 is the best of the Sartin programs.Nothing fancy is manual input and just has a few screens but will get the winners.Sometimes the simplist programs are the best.

lsosa54 · 10-03-2008, 06:13 AM

I think it depends on the individual, Jeff. Input doesn't get much simpler than the old Ultra Scan and that really started Doc toward the concept of Pace of Race/Pace of Horse. I think it also depends how you use it and where your interpretive skills may lie. Brohamer always said he liked Energy but it never gave HIM the visual picture and match up of a race like velocity.

I'm sure form a convenience standpoint, RDSS is the best. I use AODDS into EXDC to avoid manual input and can also use the file for KGEN or Entropy or can save in Pace Launcher or Synthesis format if I want.

While the individual determines what is best for his skills and how he "sees" information, I would suggest you find one and STICK WITH ONE. The zig zagging will kill you. U sing a 2nd program your're comfortable with for verification of some factor is fine, but use ONE as your main tool.

Also, it's what you do BEFORE the software that's most important. Most of the programs will get you winners. Focus your time on the contender mix and then a predictive pace line and you can't go too wrong.

Jonathan Steele · 10-03-2008, 06:30 AM

Picking winners is not what I concentrate on. As long as my Key horse ('winner') finishes in any of the top four slots in the Superfecta wager, I'm happy.

Having said that, I'd like to ask the P & C members: what program in your experience/observation consistently picks the top six horses that finish in the top four slots in the Superfecta?

Regards,

Jon

Bill V. · 10-03-2008, 07:16 AM

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Having said that, I'd like to ask the P & C members: what program in your experience/observation consistently picks the top six horses that finish in the top four slots in the Superfecta?

Regards,

Jon

Hi John

I have been giving my dad my top 5 BLBL
horses first with PL4, Synthesis, and the Validator programs
now rdss
He does well betting the superfectas
after all these years I guess that stands the test of time

Have a great day
Bill

Bill V. · 10-03-2008, 07:55 AM

He does well betting the superfecta

I sent this letter to Doc just after I got Val 2
its from Follow Up # 82

Tim Y · 10-03-2008, 04:04 PM

The BEST one is what works BEST for you......nothing else...YOU are the only yardstick for your work

Charlie D · 10-03-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless

.Sometimes the simplist programs are the best.

I think this is what makes RDSS good

Select Pacelines, Click a tab, and you can see who is Top on Energy, Velocity or whatever

It's that simple, this dumb Englishman can use it

JimG · 10-03-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y

The BEST one is what works BEST for you......nothing else...YOU are the only yardstick for your work

Tim,

Very well said! There is no absolute best program. Just pick a good one that fits your style and learn it inside and out.

Jim

Jonathan Steele · 10-05-2008, 04:19 PM

I remember that article in the Follow-Up very well, Bill. I remember reading it and said to myself, B.V. from New Jersey has got to be Bill Varone!

Jon

tom · 10-05-2008, 06:46 PM

Kgen, all the way.
If only it weren't manual entry.

10-02-2008, 11:29 PM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,613	Best Sartin Program If used the correct way as outlined in the manual Synergism 2 is the best of the Sartin programs.Nothing fancy is manual input and just has a few screens but will get the winners.Sometimes the simplist programs are the best.

10-03-2008, 06:30 AM	#3
Jonathan Steele Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 471	Picking winners is not what I concentrate on. As long as my Key horse ('winner') finishes in any of the top four slots in the Superfecta wager, I'm happy. Having said that, I'd like to ask the P & C members: what program in your experience/observation consistently picks the top six horses that finish in the top four slots in the Superfecta? Regards, Jon __________________ "Free your mind and the profits will follow." Last edited by Jonathan Steele; 10-03-2008 at 06:47 AM.

10-03-2008, 07:55 AM	#5
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Follow Up He does well betting the superfecta I sent this letter to Doc just after I got Val 2 its from Follow Up # 82

10-05-2008, 04:19 PM	#9
Jonathan Steele Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 471	I remember that article in the Follow-Up very well, Bill. I remember reading it and said to myself, B.V. from New Jersey has got to be Bill Varone! Jon __________________ "Free your mind and the profits will follow."

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10-03-2008, 06:13 AM	#2
lsosa54 Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NYC and San Diego Posts: 627	I think it depends on the individual, Jeff. Input doesn't get much simpler than the old Ultra Scan and that really started Doc toward the concept of Pace of Race/Pace of Horse. I think it also depends how you use it and where your interpretive skills may lie. Brohamer always said he liked Energy but it never gave HIM the visual picture and match up of a race like velocity. I'm sure form a convenience standpoint, RDSS is the best. I use AODDS into EXDC to avoid manual input and can also use the file for KGEN or Entropy or can save in Pace Launcher or Synthesis format if I want. While the individual determines what is best for his skills and how he "sees" information, I would suggest you find one and STICK WITH ONE. The zig zagging will kill you. U sing a 2nd program your're comfortable with for verification of some factor is fine, but use ONE as your main tool. Also, it's what you do BEFORE the software that's most important. Most of the programs will get you winners. Focus your time on the contender mix and then a predictive pace line and you can't go too wrong.

10-03-2008, 04:04 PM	#6
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	The BEST one is what works BEST for you......nothing else...YOU are the only yardstick for your work

10-05-2008, 06:46 PM	#10
tom Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 644	Kgen, all the way. If only it weren't manual entry.