pace projection - Pace and Cap

albatross · 10-04-2009, 05:19 PM

Hey guy when projecting pace #1 choice is horse actual lead horse today dist,surface.trk fastest#2none in lead closeup fastest pace as above#3 is pace.dist.That being said the winner still elude's my choice's
How is it ican't even back fit race at 60% plus speaking here of raw time's fraction.?How hell did the hat average higher not really talking about picking the winner as just haveing the winner in the mix

Tim Y · 10-05-2009, 02:01 PM

edited by Bill

Tim Y · 10-05-2009, 03:20 PM

There is a built in projector that really works in Speculator

albatross · 10-06-2009, 08:31 AM

Edited By Bill

Your question is a good one lets focus on getting you some answers

I will deal with Tim

Bill

xtb · 10-06-2009, 09:40 AM

Albatross, if you get a chance check out the "genetic algorithm" thread at PA. It's very funny.

Tim Y · 10-06-2009, 01:40 PM

Edited by Bill V.

Seriously, I am trying to understand mangled English. Don't they teach English Composition any longer in school? You know lead sentence in a paragraph that is a subject heading for all that follows until the next one?

Capital letters help one to understand where sentences begin?

Doesn't your word processor have a spell check where the ones show up with a red underline?

Doing a few of those things would help greatly in being able to understand the intent of a written statement.

Bill V. · 10-07-2009, 05:58 AM

Practice. I found that doing this simple step
has helped me. The best thing I can suggest is
do this simple task . I heard this on the Las Vegas Seninar Tapes
Garry Owens tape 4

Garry teaches a excellent method every race, Just look for the horse
that you think will have the lead at the second call
thats it.. easy ... Just instead of trying to find
the winner of the race .. Just make it your goal to
find the winner at the 2nd call. He teaches how in time you will be able to
indentify running sytles and project the pace

Bill

albatross · 10-07-2009, 09:02 AM

Bill all really wanted to know did the hat have a 60% plus winner's.As was taking winner's trying to back fit with his methods and could not come up with that %.Thanks for that advice will see how works for me.Thanks for yor time and knowledge

RichieP · 10-08-2009, 09:13 AM

From my experiences with Hat playing "live":

We would work races and he would let me go first. When I finished and made my pick there were times when I would hear dead silence on the other end of the line. Like I was disconnected and he would say nothing.

I would ask him what was wrong (after like 5 times I got the message) and he would tell me my horse couldn't win the race. Then he would tell me the so and so horse was a "lock".

In THESE races where I got the dead silence treatment after analyzing the race and then he told me a horse was a lock his win % was MORE than 60%.

Take care
Richie

mikesal57 · 10-08-2009, 10:47 AM

Thats so funny Richie...

I can picture Richie pulling up all the PP's like crazy after about 3 secs of silence..

10-06-2009, 08:31 AM	#4
albatross Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118	Thank's Edited By Bill Your question is a good one lets focus on getting you some answers I will deal with Tim Bill Last edited by Bill V.; 10-07-2009 at 06:03 AM.

10-06-2009, 01:40 PM	#6
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	Edited by Bill V. Seriously, I am trying to understand mangled English. Don't they teach English Composition any longer in school? You know lead sentence in a paragraph that is a subject heading for all that follows until the next one? Capital letters help one to understand where sentences begin? Doesn't your word processor have a spell check where the ones show up with a red underline? Doing a few of those things would help greatly in being able to understand the intent of a written statement. __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind." Last edited by Bill V.; 10-07-2009 at 06:04 AM.

10-07-2009, 05:58 AM	#7
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Pace Projection Practice. I found that doing this simple step has helped me. The best thing I can suggest is do this simple task . I heard this on the Las Vegas Seninar Tapes Garry Owens tape 4 Garry teaches a excellent method every race, Just look for the horse that you think will have the lead at the second call thats it.. easy ... Just instead of trying to find the winner of the race .. Just make it your goal to find the winner at the 2nd call. He teaches how in time you will be able to indentify running sytles and project the pace Bill Last edited by Bill V.; 10-07-2009 at 06:05 AM.

10-07-2009, 09:02 AM	#8
albatross Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118	Thank's Bill all really wanted to know did the hat have a 60% plus winner's.As was taking winner's trying to back fit with his methods and could not come up with that %.Thanks for that advice will see how works for me.Thanks for yor time and knowledge

10-08-2009, 10:47 AM	#10
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	Thats so funny Richie... I can picture Richie pulling up all the PP's like crazy after about 3 secs of silence.. Attached Images __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

10-04-2009, 05:19 PM	#1
albatross Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118	pace projection Hey guy when projecting pace #1 choice is horse actual lead horse today dist,surface.trk fastest#2none in lead closeup fastest pace as above#3 is pace.dist.That being said the winner still elude's my choice's How is it ican't even back fit race at 60% plus speaking here of raw time's fraction.?How hell did the hat average higher not really talking about picking the winner as just haveing the winner in the mix

10-05-2009, 02:01 PM	#2
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	edited by Bill __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind." Last edited by Bill V.; 10-07-2009 at 05:59 AM.

10-05-2009, 03:20 PM	#3
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	There is a built in projector that really works in Speculator __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."

10-06-2009, 09:40 AM	#5
xtb Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western NY Posts: 111	Albatross, if you get a chance check out the "genetic algorithm" thread at PA. It's very funny.

10-08-2009, 09:13 AM	#9
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	From my experiences with Hat playing "live": We would work races and he would let me go first. When I finished and made my pick there were times when I would hear dead silence on the other end of the line. Like I was disconnected and he would say nothing. I would ask him what was wrong (after like 5 times I got the message) and he would tell me my horse couldn't win the race. Then he would tell me the so and so horse was a "lock". In THESE races where I got the dead silence treatment after analyzing the race and then he told me a horse was a lock his win % was MORE than 60%. Take care Richie

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