Rdss question - Pace and Cap

mikesal57 · 06-24-2010, 08:45 AM

Hi..

I was looking over some races and this hit me ....

We have a horse here that won 2 turf races but since this is a route , his turf record is ZERO!!

Now say he runs 10 more races on the dirt and then runs in turf route race vs horses that had never won on the turf period..
Wouldn't you think he had some sort of a better chance than the rest since he won 2 turf races and you cant see it on PP's and his record???

What happened to overall turf record?

mike

noddub62 · 06-24-2010, 09:05 AM

Hi Mike,

I believe that anything less than 8f is considered a sprint.

Have a great day,

Bud

Ted Craven · 06-24-2010, 09:25 AM

Good point Mike: 7.5f is a sprint and 8f is a route. At that boundary between sprints and routes, doesn't make perfect sense does it, especially if you can't see the PPs.

Would you suggest in the Summary section having an additional line in the case of a Turf race today: Lifetime Turf ?

Ted

mikesal57 · 06-24-2010, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ted craven

good point mike: 7.5f is a sprint and 8f is a route. At that boundary between sprints and routes, doesn't make perfect sense does it, especially if you can't see the pps.

Would you suggest in the summary section having an additional line in the case of a turf race today: Lifetime turf ?

Ted

definitely: life time turf, Ted!!

thxs

alydar_ David · 06-24-2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57

...life time turf, Ted!!

Say that five times quickly.

mikesal57 · 06-24-2010, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alydar_David

Say that five times quickly.

Bill Lyster · 06-24-2010, 05:10 PM

Not to be repetitive because you and I have already communicated about this Ted, but in cases where races get taken off the turf it is instructive to have the dirt history available by some kind of toggle or just generally included

Thanks,

Bill

Ted Craven · 06-28-2010, 11:55 AM

Absolutely Bill. This will be done!

Ted

06-24-2010, 08:45 AM	#1
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	Rdss question Hi.. I was looking over some races and this hit me .... We have a horse here that won 2 turf races but since this is a route , his turf record is ZERO!! Now say he runs 10 more races on the dirt and then runs in turf route race vs horses that had never won on the turf period.. Wouldn't you think he had some sort of a better chance than the rest since he won 2 turf races and you cant see it on PP's and his record??? What happened to overall turf record? mike Attached Images __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

06-24-2010, 09:25 AM	#3
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,256	Good point Mike: 7.5f is a sprint and 8f is a route. At that boundary between sprints and routes, doesn't make perfect sense does it, especially if you can't see the PPs. Would you suggest in the Summary section having an additional line in the case of a Turf race today: Lifetime Turf ? Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

06-28-2010, 11:55 AM	#8
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 9,256	Absolutely Bill. This will be done! Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

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06-24-2010, 09:05 AM	#2
noddub62 Budman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 801	Hi Mike, I believe that anything less than 8f is considered a sprint. Have a great day, Bud

06-24-2010, 05:10 PM	#7
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,500	Not to be repetitive because you and I have already communicated about this Ted, but in cases where races get taken off the turf it is instructive to have the dirt history available by some kind of toggle or just generally included Thanks, Bill