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Old 09-03-2011, 09:27 AM   #1
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:16 AM   #2
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Hi Bill

My Dad and I are going up to Monmouth Park today
He likes Saratoga so I worked the races

Here are my picks Top 3 VDC

1R Pass
2R Pass
3R 1 4 8
4R Pass
5R Pass
6R Pass
7R Pass
8R 6 1 3
9R 1 5 6
10R 6 7 8
11R 12 8 5
12R Pass

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Old 09-03-2011, 11:51 AM   #3
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Hi Bill

My Dad and I are going up to Monmouth Park today
He likes Saratoga so I worked the races

Here are my picks Top 3 VDC
Saratoga has a tough card. I think we have partial agreement in one of the six races that I posted.
It should be interesting to see how things shape up.

I hope you and your dad have a prosperous day.

I was wondering if you bet all 3 VDC contenders in all of the playable races you have listed ?
That would be a total of 15 bets in 5 races.
If so, I guess you need 1 or 2 big horses to show a positive ROI.

I would have to hit 1 or 2 winners out of a possible 6 bets to go positive.

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Old 09-03-2011, 12:49 PM   #4
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What's even more mind boggling than betting 3 horses (to win or win and place) in a race is all the congratulating that happens on this forum (and others) when someone picks a winner this way. I mean, it's getting so bad that, in some forums, someone just mentions liking a long shot to hit the board and if the horse runs THIRD, say, the high fives go out, as it's conceded that the triple and the super were hit -- without the mention of any specific other horses.

It is what it is.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:10 PM   #5
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I'm sure you can be more specific if you try. Could you please cite a recent post where someone said before or after the race that they actually bet 3 or 4 horses to Win in a race, distinct from simply posting their 3 or 4 pre-race contenders? Maybe, several of such posts?

Posting a workup or study of what would have happened had you bet 3 or 4 horses to win in a race by some method or other is not the same as actually betting like that. Sometimes the workup is to prove or disprove a concept.

As I posted the other day, somewhere here, I suspect the vast majority of members actually bet on average about 2 horses or less to win, not 3 or 4 (partly because that has been a functional principle of the Sartin Methodology since about forever).

Most people can't or don't want to post their bet decisions at 1 minute to post, so they post their contenders instead, presumably with the understanding that which horses they eventually bet (if any) is determined by the odds at bet time.

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Old 09-03-2011, 01:58 PM   #6
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Ted, Well said. You saved me from being sarcastic in my response.
Doc never said to bet 4 or 5 horses just because they are your final contenders. He said to bet the top 2 of your selections from the top 3, or if the 4th or 5th were really good longshots you might consider a small saver on them.
Once you got down to your final horses , then odds become very important.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:16 PM   #7
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Nice Post

Hey My dad just hit the 10 cnt super at Saratoga in race 1
$139.00 just boxes his top 4 horses

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Old 09-03-2011, 02:32 PM   #8
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Saratoga has a tough card. I think we have partial agreement in one of the six races that I posted.
It should be interesting to see how things shape up.

I hope you and your dad have a prosperous day.

I was wondering if you bet all 3 VDC contenders in all of the playable races you have listed ?
That would be a total of 15 bets in 5 races.
If so, I guess you need 1 or 2 big horses to show a positive ROI.

I would have to hit 1 or 2 winners out of a possible 6 bets to go positive.
Yes I do bet all three VDC horses Im doing at test a Del Mar but I do all tracks as well .. what I take from the Methodology is important to my own
ability and what my mind can handle

How people bet is probably a very personal issue
what they take out of racing both finacialy and entertainment wish is also
probably something that matches and fits there own taste in life

I do not think think of racing as a competitve sport
I don't have any desire to be the best. I participate in The Sartin methodoly
for reasons that are rooted in issues that I face in life, I look for improvement
in my ability and reaching goals not to conqure and destroy


I am rooting for you to sweep the card
Go get them

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Old 09-03-2011, 03:51 PM   #9
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I am rooting for you to sweep the card
Go get them

Bill
Bill, you did very well in the 3rd.

I'm not faulting the way you bet. I'm trying to improve the way I play.
I am always looking to learn.

$17.00 for the #1 in Race(3) - Nice job
That ain't chopped liver.

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Old 09-03-2011, 03:56 PM   #10
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This ones for you

Thanks Bill

I just put a wps on the 1 in race 5
for you
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