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[Turbulator]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

What Howard or ANYONE else would say about an independent interpretation of the use of the methodology means ZIP to me.

I love controversy and a good debate. I enjoy the exchange of ideas that come from intelligent discourse. I've learned a lot of things that way. I'm sure you've got some great ideas about horse racing, as do lots of others. You post up so many winning races I'm convinced you make a lot of money at this game. (I still don't know HOW you win all those races, but that's a debate for another time.)

You're also entitled to your opinions. The rest of us are entitled to ours. Whatever works, works. As Dick Mitchel was fond of saying, "There is more than one path to the win window."

But since F1 is such a worthless concept, maybe Ted could reverse engineer your version of Validator (or whatever you're using) and take out all of the calculations and readouts that use F1. They must really get in your way.

Oh and by the way, just because 99% of the responders here disagree with what you are saying it doesn't make you a bad guy.

The fact that YOU think that you're NEVER wrong is what makes you're motives questionable.

I just filled up my swimming pool this afternoon. I'm throwing a party for all the little kiddies. Perhaps you could stop by and walk across it for us.

Steve

[Tim Y]

Originally Posted by Turbulator

The fact that YOU think that you're NEVER wrong is what makes you're motives questionable.e

That might be your concept, it is assuredly not mine.

[Bill V.]

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From Follow Up # 2

[gl45]

Ted,
I don't give a hoot if you did delete part of my post. That is the way I see things. The fews that did read it agree with my statement.

[shoeless]

Ted,No reason that you should have deleted part of Pino's post,there wasnt anything in it that was any worse then some of the comments made towards Tim.Who died and made you King anyway?

[Tim Y]

I would be VERY interested in someone QUOTING an article in the Sartin literature that studied, and reported any findings on F1 as a stand alone handicapping factor.

If it were that important a factor, surely someone who have studied it as such and written about it.

Forgot that the Fx was F1 and F3...still a compound calculation is it not?

[Charlie D]

Tim

Don't think anyone is saying Fr1 is a stand alone, but The FX results show Fr1 is important don't they????

[Bill V.]

Hello Jeff

I gave Richie and Ted the ability to delete post

They are doing this for me as I can not watch the board all by myself 24/7
We feel very strongly about letting post stay as is
but Ted, Richie and I have a very dedicated feel that pace and cap
is not the place for negative energy
I thank everyone. Pace and cap is good most of the time Things like this
are a once in awhile problem
Ted warned everyone. I see every post even when they are
deleted. I can still read them
I back and support what they do for the good of pace and cap

Thanks you
Bill Varone
administrator

[gl45]

Bill,
You might as well call this forum RDSS. There is not anything I can learn from RDSS. It is only a pretty Val picture. I haven't see anybody show a 20 race cycle using only RDSS. I'm attaching my last 20 races cycle (only 18 races) from a lousy data base and umble spreadsheets, using only my brain.

[VoodooFan]

Holy , freakin cow.

What a mob fest. Like one of those street fights that get out of hand.

Jumpin fried catfish!! One guy says something to another guy, the other guy pushes him, they start swinging, but not before the guy that got pushed made contact with another guy, HE starts swingin, then , the another guy say's "hey, you pile'in on my friend, then he starts swingin, then 50 people start fighting and the riot police has to come in, ho-l-e-e cripes!!

Bills recent post is what its all about, if one truely wants to get to the bottom line answer....photo reproductions of Docs own words and articles.

Lets show some cash reciepts, Para-mutual win tickets, win prices and top 2-3 factors used.

This seems more a tit for tat, ego protection, personal vendettas and sore spots, pride defensive, intellectual bravado more than getting daily results.

If that's the case, then I'll watch this like a You Tube street fight captured on a cell phone camera, or americas wildest police chases, because this debate seems about more of being right than beating the track.

Ever hear the term "dead right"? I'd rather be wrong and alive than right and dead. Knowing when to apply rules and when to discard them , like in war.

Civilian law cannot be applied in actual war combat, a split second bad decision can end all your worries.

Who cares who is right, whats right is whats winning money , at a profit daily.

If discounting the 1st fraction is less work and can get as much or more money as other Sartin programs and philosophy, True Methodologist are in, IF it can be proven over, and over, and over with win reciepts.

If you are not showing and proving results with cash consistantly coming out of the tellers window, then what are we talkin about, anyway???

VoodooFan