Tom Hambleton and TPR - Pace and Cap

Latekick · 08-01-2015, 09:27 PM

Does anyone use the method that Hambleton and Schmidt preached and were very successful with?
If so please message me or email me. Id like to learn if anyone is successful with them and how they are used most effectively

Mitch44 · 08-03-2015, 01:50 PM

What your talking of was a phase 1 and the very beginning of Satin's evolution of hcp. One immediate problem with it is it uses 1/5 for beaten lengths which isn't accurate at all but it kept the math simple. I made my own rating with this concept with precise ratings which enhanced it to a better level.

The 2nd problem with it is track to track adjustments and 3rd an accurate variant. These can also applied and should be to make it a better product.

Why brother with all this through because as a member of RDSS this is all done for you in the RDSS program. All you have to do is look at the EPR,FFR and CPR in RDSS. Additionally it is all automated and not prone to mistakes by the user as it is computer driven based on the line you have chosen. So if you want this it all there and with correct beaten lengths, variants and track to track adjustments. I review these readouts all the time and find them extremely useful as most ignore them.

Their book is an excellent read especially the advance concepts. There is more than just phase 1 to become a winner such as running styles, compounding of fractions into other factors etc. which are included in RDSS( line scores) and along with all the later phases.

Bottom line is use the phase one that is in RDSS for the complete version along with BL/BL , line scores and V/DC and you'll do well.
Mitch 44

Latekick · 08-03-2015, 06:30 PM

Thanks Mitch, i knew what it was and that it was phase 1 i was just wondering if there were still any players using them without RDSS.
I personally only use RDSS but was interested to see if there were any players out there using TPR and making the numbers on their own

Mitch44 · 08-03-2015, 07:14 PM

Got you Latekick. I'm sure their out there but don't know why someone wouldn't improve their game.

Good luck,
Mitch 44

08-01-2015, 09:27 PM	#1
Latekick Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 389	Tom Hambleton and TPR Does anyone use the method that Hambleton and Schmidt preached and were very successful with? If so please message me or email me. Id like to learn if anyone is successful with them and how they are used most effectively

08-03-2015, 01:50 PM	#2
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,705	What your talking of was a phase 1 and the very beginning of Satin's evolution of hcp. One immediate problem with it is it uses 1/5 for beaten lengths which isn't accurate at all but it kept the math simple. I made my own rating with this concept with precise ratings which enhanced it to a better level. The 2nd problem with it is track to track adjustments and 3rd an accurate variant. These can also applied and should be to make it a better product. Why brother with all this through because as a member of RDSS this is all done for you in the RDSS program. All you have to do is look at the EPR,FFR and CPR in RDSS. Additionally it is all automated and not prone to mistakes by the user as it is computer driven based on the line you have chosen. So if you want this it all there and with correct beaten lengths, variants and track to track adjustments. I review these readouts all the time and find them extremely useful as most ignore them. Their book is an excellent read especially the advance concepts. There is more than just phase 1 to become a winner such as running styles, compounding of fractions into other factors etc. which are included in RDSS( line scores) and along with all the later phases. Bottom line is use the phase one that is in RDSS for the complete version along with BL/BL , line scores and V/DC and you'll do well. Mitch 44

08-03-2015, 06:30 PM	#3
Latekick Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 389	Thanks Mitch, i knew what it was and that it was phase 1 i was just wondering if there were still any players using them without RDSS. I personally only use RDSS but was interested to see if there were any players out there using TPR and making the numbers on their own

08-03-2015, 07:14 PM	#4
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,705	Got you Latekick. I'm sure their out there but don't know why someone wouldn't improve their game. Good luck, Mitch 44