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Old 01-16-2021, 01:09 PM   #1
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PARX model observations
Model covers all of November and December 2020 and is being updated for January 2021 races as they happen, given a day or two later (updated thru 1/12/21).

There are 280 races in this study and only 6 horses won from layoffs more than 90 days. Five of the six were in sprints, only one winner with such a long layoff from routes. 175 sprints with 8 wins cutting back from routes <5%; 7 occurred in 6.5 or 7 furlong races. 105 routes with 17 sprint to route winners, with 12 winners stretching out from 7 furlong pacelines.

Overall there were 2.1% winners from horses with over 90 day layoffs and place horses with over 90 day layoffs hit the board only 1.9% of the time.


PL and BPP info for all maidens at all distances
Of the 51 maiden races where I had PL & BPP data saved 38 were top 3 PL and 42 were top 3 BPP, 74% and 82% respectively. This includes 3 of 3 first time starter (FTS) winners. The FTS winners were ranked in the top 2 PL. All first time winners came in sprint races.
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Thanks for these observations from your modeling Bill!


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Just like to point out that BPP doesn't show a ranking for a FTS. They are listed after horses with pacelines in post position order. This is an area where PL shines.
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Listed by distance where I had PL and BPP info at Parx from all of November and December and January thru 1/12/21.

7 races at 5.5 F, PL 6 wins, BPP 5
17 races at 6.0 F, PL 14 wins, BPP 14 wins
2 races at 6.5 F, PL 1 win, BPP 2 wins
8 races at 7.0 F, PL 6 wins, BPP 5 wins
2 races at 8.0 F, PL 2 wins, BPP 2 wins
11 races at 8.3 F, PL 7 wins, BPP 8 wins
2 races at 8.5 F, PL 1 win, BPP 2 wins
2 races at 9.0 F, PL 1 win, BPP 2 wins

PL wins 38/51 = 74.5%
BPP 40/51 = 78.4% (note corrected win percentage)
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:58 AM   #5
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Hi Bill. Thanks for you work and input. Just to add an observation I found Bris pp to be stronger in turf race then Profit line. This off sets the advantage PL has in mdn races with FTS.
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Tim,
Thanks for the heads up. I checked the SA Turf routes that I had so far (didnt assemble two days worth) and found BPP to have the winner in 20/29 races in the top 3 BPP.

Not bad for one factor!
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Great info Bill. Since I was introduced to PL and PP my capping and my ROI have improved drastically.
I would not consider working a card if I didn't have access to these valuable products!
Thanks again and Great Skill always.
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Since we are on the subject on Parx models I thought I pass along my woking models for all dirt dists at Parx. Info includes todays'1-19 results. Just keep in mind that these models are based on MY contender and paceline selections and most likely will differ from those being kept by other members.
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Here are the current Win dirt models including todays' results. Models are based on primary factors with the ones having the most top 2 ratings considered dominating.


DIST EP/LP DOMINAING FACTOR[s] Most top 2 ranks Range of % Med
5.0 EP CPR,FW,VDC 67.4-70.0
5,5 EVEN CPR,VDC 67.0-69.7
6.0 LP FX,VDC 68.4-70,2
6.5 LP CPR,VDC 67.9-69.7
7.0 EP CPR,VDC 68.2-69.7
8.0 EP TT,FX,VDC 67.5-69.4
8.3 EP FX,VDC 67.3-69.3
8.5 LP FX,VDC 67.0-68.5
9.0 LP VDC 67-4-68.4
10.0 LP HIDDEN ENERGY 67.2-68.6
12.0 EP CPR,FX 66.7-68.6
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Parx info all distances since november 2020 thru today

MasterTemplate5 - Parx 2020-2021-win only.xlsx


i Modeled all distances from Parx since the start of November. Obviously not all factors are relevant. I am still working on that part of it.

I found it useful to divide the field by top EPR and other and classify factors according to whether they were top 3 or 4 EPR or farther off pace. You can see from the data what the relative early and late breakdown is by distance.

Have fun with this.

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TIm,

I forgot to say thanks for sharing this info. I enclosed my model from November thru yesterday in another post. I appreciate all your work and certainly your many successes.

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Since we are on the subject on Parx models I thought I pass along my woking models for all dirt dists at Parx. Info includes todays'1-19 results. Just keep in mind that these models are based on MY contender and paceline selections and most likely will differ from those being kept by other members.
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Tue, Jan 19 at 7:46 PM

Here are the current Win dirt models including todays' results. Models are based on primary factors with the ones having the most top 2 ratings considered dominating.


DIST EP/LP DOMINAING FACTOR[s] Most top 2 ranks Range of % Med
5.0 EP CPR,FW,VDC 67.4-70.0
5,5 EVEN CPR,VDC 67.0-69.7
6.0 LP FX,VDC 68.4-70,2
6.5 LP CPR,VDC 67.9-69.7
7.0 EP CPR,VDC 68.2-69.7
8.0 EP TT,FX,VDC 67.5-69.4
8.3 EP FX,VDC 67.3-69.3
8.5 LP FX,VDC 67.0-68.5
9.0 LP VDC 67-4-68.4
10.0 LP HIDDEN ENERGY 67.2-68.6
12.0 EP CPR,FX 66.7-68.6
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