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| Races of Interest *Detailed* Discussion of Races – Screen shots, decisions, post-mortems |
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Melbourne, Florida
Posts: 258
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Keeneland Race 4 Wed 4/22/26
I am going to attempt to explain how I use Prime Power and Profit Line in conjunction with Newpace. Once I finally understood what the numbers were telling me Newpace became quite easy for me. First screenshot is the Newpace screen. Visual pace bias is telling us its going to run late. Notice at the bottom POR is 87 here, which means the race is under severe pressure and set up to favor late runners over early speed.
Prime Power ranks horses on raw ability like speed, class, and form, but it assumes the race unfolds cleanly, which makes it vulnerable in this kind of meltdown setup. Profit Line tries to project how the race actually finishes, so it holds up better when pressure disrupts the expected flow. As pace pressure increases, Prime Power tends to overvalue early dominance while Profit Line becomes more reliable in pointing toward horses that can survive the collapse. NewPace POR is what ties it all together, because it tells you when to trust structure and when to shift toward outcome and survival. The 2nd screenshot is the Rx screen with top 5 profit line horses ranked. The 5 went off as the post time favorite and I dutch win bet the 6 and 1. The 6 wins at 9-1, the 1 places the 5 horse shows and the 8 rounds out the superfecta. ![]() |
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Valley Stream NY
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Nice example in a hard race A12f turf race with only the 1 having a race within a fur of todays' dist. showing. Thanks for the screen shots. Congrats on the hit.
Tim
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Melbourne, Florida
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The 6 paid $21.34 $7.90 $5.08
The 1 paid $11.80 $5.72 Exacta for $2 paid $280.08 I just win bet it! |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 308
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Nice hit, great post! Thanks for sharing!
Dick
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,586
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If I may ask, why did you decide on 6 &1
Thanks for sharing Jeff |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Largo Fl.
Posts: 2,360
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Melbourne, Florida
Posts: 258
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The 6 was ranked 3 on the profit line. It was also ranked 2nd in TPP, L/Ep, TSF3 PF3. The 1 horse was ranked number 1 Newpace late. The 5 was was the post time favorite and the 8 was 2nd favorite. I put $10 win bet on the 6 and 1.
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,796
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A lot of folks use the best of last 3 auto select for their pace lines. Both you Awesome and Lt1 clearly do not. Maybe you two could chime in on what constitutes a good paceline. For some of the newer RDSS practitioners.
Pook
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,796
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I’m pretty sure Dick Werpy goes with the best of last 3 auto. He seems successful. Explain how taking the time to look for that ideal line out of ten serves you better. You know…for the uninitiated.
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Grade 1
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: West Melbourne, Florida
Posts: 258
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Pook, lately I have been using unpressured high (red underline) and pressured (blue underline). Based on what the visual pace bias is showing. Then I will reference newpace (por) and esp on the energy screen. Then I look at Prime Power and Profit line. I do have a paceline selection matrix that I created and I can post it for all to reference. It may be of use to some and then again it may not.
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