Daily varient in Syn. - Pace and Cap

froggy · 05-20-2007, 03:05 PM

When asked for the daily varient do you have to be inputing from the Daily Racing Form pp,s or can I just enter 0 or 17 or anything I want. The pp,s from The likes of TSN or Bris don't have daily varients.

After asking for the track record it then asks for the 2nd call time and final time.
What second call and final time?
Is this for the fastest horse in this race or the record times?

Also is there a way to download files like from Trackmaster or TSN or a way to convert files over just by changing their name.

I'm not operational yet and would like to be.

Froggy

shoeless · 05-20-2007, 07:44 PM

I guess your using Syn 2 the variants I use are the ones in the DRF.The 2nd call and final time are from the horses that you are putting in pacelines for.These should be taken from TODAY'S TRACK AND SETUP DISTANCE.When you are putting in a setup distance it should be from the most like distances at today's track.For example today you are playng a race from CT at 7 fur and you are using pacelines from 3 races at 6.5 fur and 2 races at 7 fur you would use the setup distance at 6.5 fur.Purdy says the best way to use Synergism is to get all the horses with all the same distances.The reason being he setup the program to do par variants the same way Brohammer does.The Shoe

froggy · 05-20-2007, 07:48 PM

Shoe

In other words I have to use the DRF.

Froggy

shoeless · 05-20-2007, 08:04 PM

Yep, but if you didnt know already that other stuff is as important as well.

partsnut · 05-20-2007, 08:32 PM

Froggy,

I use SpeedPlus to convert my pacelines into a SYN2 file.

You won't need to put all that other nonsense in by hand.

When you create a SYN 2 file, all you have to do is load it into the program.
However, you will need to study and practice with the SpeedPlus progam.
It takes lots of practice and repetition in order for you to get up to speed.
This will come with time and patience and possibly a little guidence and input from those that know how to use it.

I'm fairly successful with this method. Today at CTX ( 5 winners,out of 7 races ).

froggy · 05-20-2007, 08:36 PM

Parts,

How does that work and is it hard to get whatever you use to do it?

Froggy

partsnut · 05-20-2007, 08:42 PM

Froggy,

It's as simple as sending an email.

shoeless · 05-20-2007, 09:11 PM

Parts,I really dont think that stuff you put in by hand is nonsense that's the way the program was meant to be used.No matter which way you do it if the right pacelines are not put in it really wont matter anyway.The Shoe

partsnut · 05-20-2007, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless

Parts,I really dont think that stuff you put in by hand is nonsense that's the way the program was meant to be used.No matter which way you do it if the right pacelines are not put in it really wont matter anyway.The Shoe

Because this program was written a number of years ago, it was probably
meant to be used manually. However time changes lots of things.
You can choose to be backward and not adapt to new techology and ideas or you can come out of the dark ages and try to improve on the old by using tools that were not available or not being used at that time

Jeff, I am referring to SYN 2. All I'm saying is that Syn 2 for the most part automatically adjusts for pars and variant and if you use updated pars in SpeedPlus and create a SYN 2 file that is adjusted by pars and variant, there would be no need for manual input whatsoever or the racing form for that matter if you use AOdds, which in my opinion tells you a lot more then the form.
However, for some it is easier to type in all the data by hand and for others that are somewhat computer literate, might choose to create the SYN 2 file with speedplus. It's all about setting up a routine that is fast and efficient.
All it takes is practice and repetion. It's like walking and chewing gum at the same time.

Some can can do it and others can not.

I will say your right on about the contenders and pace lines. Without these nothing will help.

RichieP · 05-21-2007, 08:23 AM

Hey Shoe,

Froggy was saying that with Bris file you can't see the variant.

Can you help him with that? Isn't there a way you CAN bring it out big bro?

Richie

05-20-2007, 03:05 PM	#1
froggy Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bullhead City Az Posts: 921	Daily varient in Syn. When asked for the daily varient do you have to be inputing from the Daily Racing Form pp,s or can I just enter 0 or 17 or anything I want. The pp,s from The likes of TSN or Bris don't have daily varients. After asking for the track record it then asks for the 2nd call time and final time. What second call and final time? Is this for the fastest horse in this race or the record times? Also is there a way to download files like from Trackmaster or TSN or a way to convert files over just by changing their name. I'm not operational yet and would like to be. Froggy Last edited by froggy; 05-20-2007 at 03:20 PM.

05-20-2007, 08:32 PM	#5
partsnut BetMix User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,433	SpeedPlus Froggy, I use SpeedPlus to convert my pacelines into a SYN2 file. You won't need to put all that other nonsense in by hand. When you create a SYN 2 file, all you have to do is load it into the program. However, you will need to study and practice with the SpeedPlus progam. It takes lots of practice and repetition in order for you to get up to speed. This will come with time and patience and possibly a little guidence and input from those that know how to use it. I'm fairly successful with this method. Today at CTX ( 5 winners,out of 7 races ). Last edited by partsnut; 05-20-2007 at 08:38 PM.

05-21-2007, 08:23 AM	#10
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Shoeless Hey Shoe, Froggy was saying that with Bris file you can't see the variant. Can you help him with that? Isn't there a way you CAN bring it out big bro? Richie __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

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05-20-2007, 07:44 PM	#2
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,644	I guess your using Syn 2 the variants I use are the ones in the DRF.The 2nd call and final time are from the horses that you are putting in pacelines for.These should be taken from TODAY'S TRACK AND SETUP DISTANCE.When you are putting in a setup distance it should be from the most like distances at today's track.For example today you are playng a race from CT at 7 fur and you are using pacelines from 3 races at 6.5 fur and 2 races at 7 fur you would use the setup distance at 6.5 fur.Purdy says the best way to use Synergism is to get all the horses with all the same distances.The reason being he setup the program to do par variants the same way Brohammer does.The Shoe

05-20-2007, 07:48 PM	#3
froggy Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bullhead City Az Posts: 921	Shoe In other words I have to use the DRF. Froggy

05-20-2007, 08:04 PM	#4
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,644	Yep, but if you didnt know already that other stuff is as important as well.

05-20-2007, 08:36 PM	#6
froggy Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bullhead City Az Posts: 921	Parts, How does that work and is it hard to get whatever you use to do it? Froggy

05-20-2007, 08:42 PM	#7
partsnut BetMix User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,433	Froggy, It's as simple as sending an email.

05-20-2007, 09:11 PM	#8
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,644	Parts,I really dont think that stuff you put in by hand is nonsense that's the way the program was meant to be used.No matter which way you do it if the right pacelines are not put in it really wont matter anyway.The Shoe