Match Up - Pace and Cap

shoeless · 02-17-2006, 10:33 PM

I want to thank Bill for putting up this area even though I might be talking to myself.I was listening to a Sartin Seminar tape back from the Pirco days and learned something new.The Match Up was intended to cover each fraction of the race not just one call.I always thought it was just covering the 2nd call and whoever couldnt run against that would not be a contender.But then on this tape Doc said Bradshaw was about to stop teaching it because he didnt intend it to be used this way.Also he was upset because clients were not using the 1st & 3rd fraction as well.I dont know the year of this tape but I know it was around when KGEN was developed but I also noticed a division of the group happening.Doc and Bradshaw took the energy people to one room and Brohammer took the velocity people to another.I guess Ramon was right you can teach an old dog like me new tricks.Shoeless

admin · 02-17-2006, 11:45 PM

Your welcome Jeff
Please stick with you feelings
This is your thing - there is value in numbers

The Match Up Red manual....
http://bindfold.com/images/TheMatchUp_1.zip
http://bindfold.com/images/TheMatchUp_2.zip

RichieP · 02-22-2006, 08:04 PM

Jeff,
back in the early 90's the couple of times I had the chance to talk with "Hat" on the phone he told me when working a route race to do TWO match ups.

One for "early". the 2nd one "sp" or sustained. He told me to bet the winner of the early and winner of the late as my 2 win bets.

fwiw on page 16 of the match up manual he describes this process as best he can

Back in the day Jeff both Doc and the Hat were unreal "pickers". I am talking early 90's.In 2 phone calls to Doc he gave me 4 horses that were running that day or the following day. 2 of them won another placed.

ok
Richie

shoeless · 02-22-2006, 10:32 PM

Bill and Richie thanks for the replies.Jeff

02-17-2006, 10:33 PM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,612	Match Up I want to thank Bill for putting up this area even though I might be talking to myself.I was listening to a Sartin Seminar tape back from the Pirco days and learned something new.The Match Up was intended to cover each fraction of the race not just one call.I always thought it was just covering the 2nd call and whoever couldnt run against that would not be a contender.But then on this tape Doc said Bradshaw was about to stop teaching it because he didnt intend it to be used this way.Also he was upset because clients were not using the 1st & 3rd fraction as well.I dont know the year of this tape but I know it was around when KGEN was developed but I also noticed a division of the group happening.Doc and Bradshaw took the energy people to one room and Brohammer took the velocity people to another.I guess Ramon was right you can teach an old dog like me new tricks.Shoeless

02-22-2006, 08:04 PM	#3
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Route "match up" Jeff, back in the early 90's the couple of times I had the chance to talk with "Hat" on the phone he told me when working a route race to do TWO match ups. One for "early". the 2nd one "sp" or sustained. He told me to bet the winner of the early and winner of the late as my 2 win bets. fwiw on page 16 of the match up manual he describes this process as best he can Back in the day Jeff both Doc and the Hat were unreal "pickers". I am talking early 90's.In 2 phone calls to Doc he gave me 4 horses that were running that day or the following day. 2 of them won another placed. ok Richie

02-17-2006, 11:45 PM	#2
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Your welcome Jeff Please stick with you feelings This is your thing - there is value in numbers The Match Up Red manual.... http://bindfold.com/images/TheMatchUp_1.zip http://bindfold.com/images/TheMatchUp_2.zip

02-22-2006, 10:32 PM	#4
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,612	Bill and Richie thanks for the replies.Jeff