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Old 07-24-2013, 04:12 PM   #1
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Lake George Grade 2 Spa race 9

The summer of George !

Race 9 looks interesting based on al the early runners !
3 year old Fillies Grade 2 8.5 Turf

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Old 07-24-2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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Watched it live.

I'd like to do a autopsy on this race. Some of the information in RDSS didn't jive with how the race ran and I'm curious as to why.

First screen is the segments screen. The rest are the the energy screens of the line-up.

What I'm not understanding is in the segment screen, TS + F3 is not how they ran at all (not that I'm looking for a "pick the winners for me" screen). Now the total energy numbers fit a little better but... Maximo, who wasn't in the money, shows as coming in first and has the worst total energy numbers

They finished 6,1,2 & 5

If you guys want to move this to a different area that's fine.

Help!

Edit: I see we can only upload 5 screen shots. I was going to u/l the pp for the lineup. Can you help with this Bill?

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Old 07-24-2013, 07:30 PM   #3
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Line score

Hi Terry

"If I use line 4" I'm sorry I just think that was so funny

The Lake George ran pretty much to form.
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The top 4 finishers were the top 4 betting choices.
The segments screen did call the 5
as the dominant early and she tried to take them wire to wire
outside of that the rest of the readouts are all very close.
The difference on the BLBL line score from first to 6th is only 3 points
From years of experience, when I see the top rated horse with only a 16
line score, this usually means a competitive race.

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Old 07-24-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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When I post the PP's for a race I usually just do 3 or 4 horses
per post. Then once that post activates then I just hit the post reply.
button and add 3 or 4 more horses in a new post.

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then hit reply again until
I have all the screen shots i need for each race

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Watched it live.

I'd like to do a autopsy on this race. Some of the information in RDSS didn't jive with how the race ran and I'm curious as to why.

First screen is the segments screen. The rest are the the energy screens of the line-up.

What I'm not understanding is in the segment screen, TS + F3 is not how they ran at all (not that I'm looking for a "pick the winners for me" screen). Now the total energy numbers fit a little better but... Maximo, who wasn't in the money, shows as coming in first and has the worst total energy numbers

They finished 6,1,2 & 5

If you guys want to move this to a different area that's fine.

Help!

Edit: I see we can only upload 5 screen shots. I was going to u/l the pp for the lineup. Can you help with this Bill?

Tnxs.
As far as the segments screen is concerned, the only segment that is representative of where you might actually find the horses "on the track" during the running of the race is the F1 segment. This is because the fastest horse to the first call should be the fastest horse in the F1 segment, assuming your lines are correct.

The "F2" segment is telling you how fast the horses are running during the second fraction. This DOES NOT mean the horses will be in the position you see in the F2 segment during the running of the race at the second call.

The "TS+F3" segment represents total speed plus 3rd fraction. Again, this DOES NOT mean the horses will be in this position at the end of today's race.

If you want to make a comparison of how the horses ran, today, versus how you thought they should run, compare your original screen in RDSS to the actual chart of the race. (see below)

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Remember, in any program where a single line from a previous race is used, the assumption is always made that the horse will run back to that line. That doesn't always happen for a myriad of reasons. Some horses will "benefit" for a previous race while other may not. The match up in a previous race may have benefited a horse, whereas today's match up does not. The possible scenarios go on and on.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:54 AM   #6
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As far as the segments screen is concerned, the only segment that is representative of where you might actually find the horses "on the track" during the running of the race is the F1 segment. This is because the fastest horse to the first call should be the fastest horse in the F1 segment, assuming your lines are correct.

The "F2" segment is telling you how fast the horses are running during the second fraction. This DOES NOT mean the horses will be in the position you see in the F2 segment during the running of the race at the second call.

The "TS+F3" segment represents total speed plus 3rd fraction. Again, this DOES NOT mean the horses will be in this position at the end of today's race.
Well now I'm confused. In watching this video (a video made by Ted and Gil):

http://www.sartinmethodology.com/vid....12.2013-R7.mp

Going to the 2:30 part of the video Gil is checking the segment screen and states that "the 6,8,10 & 1 will be the top 3 horses (according to a first glance)". In my screen shot above RDSS shows that the 4,3 & 1 being the top horses. That's why I was scratching my head.

BTW, sent Ted the $ yesterday for becoming a subscription member. Looking forward to many a memorable race.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:20 AM   #7
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Also if you listen to the video starting at 18:44 Gil refers to the segment screen and refers to placement as actual running as.

I have no problem either way but need to understand, and interpret correctly, what I'm seeing.
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