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Old 05-21-2008, 08:10 PM   #1
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Attacking a Race

Im mainly addressing this to any newbies out there,in my opinion the first thing you should do when attacking a race is READ THE CONDITIONS.There is a wealth of information there that cannot be given to you by program readouts.This was from a race at CT on Saturday night,if you notice the conditions of the race and look down to the Feb 24th paceline you will see what I mean.By the way in the pp's the small s means state bred just in case you didnt know.I know people will come out of the woodwork and look back at this race and say oh this program or this way would have gotten the winner and that's great AFTER THE FACT.I know everyone has a way of doing things and none of them is wrong.But if you want to improve your cappin this is one thing that will surely help.Oh by the way he went off 8-1 and won.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:17 PM   #2
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Ironic you post this now. I was listening to the pro paceline tapes in Club area last night and TWO different pros mentioned on the tapes how they looked at the race conditions IMMEDIATELY before doing anything!

You sure you are not a mind reader bud?

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Old 05-21-2008, 08:31 PM   #3
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Richie,Believe me Ray Taulbot said the same things YEARS before the people did on the pacline tapes.Jeff
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:14 PM   #4
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Forgot about that name and probably others.

Ray Taulbot was another one of Doc's favorite and repetitive mentions for reference.

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:00 AM   #5
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Jim Quinn's "The Handicappers Condition Book" is a classic read.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:53 AM   #6
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Lesson 2


I have been looking first at numbers then looking who fits the conditions of the race,BIG MISTAKE it should be the other way around.Dont just go to your computer readouts first.


If anyone else would like to post how they attack a race feel free even though I doubt I will get much reponse.On PA they brought up if you knew something that makes you a winner would you be willing to share it.I thought about this and yes I would even though on this board I feel most would not.I know Im going to hear Admin say friends helping friends but think about it ARE WE REALLY DOING THAT.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:38 AM   #7
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I learn to work the race in a organize and methodical manner. Same procedures and I never deviate from it.

Read carefully the race conditions
Look casually the race, to get a sense of it
I focus on the horse's last 4 races, starting with the last, (times/positions/bl)
Workouts line
Pace and Speed ratings
Race type column
Distance/Surface column
Jocks/Weight column
Horse's box scores

My next step is to find the positive and negative horse's attributes. You'll be surprise how many horses you'll be tossing out. I'm always left with 4, or at the most, 5 contenders. Software is a thing of the past for me. I have been making progress since.
You might ask: are you winning?
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:51 AM   #8
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Pino,That was good you posted exactly how you go about doing things.Actually I go about it the same way except that I will use CJ numbers to get my contenders hopefully to 4 and then run those through Synergism.Im not as good as you are with being able to interperate numbers as you.


Im hoping some of you lurkers that never post will chime in or at least say hello it would be nice for a change.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:42 AM   #9
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Hello Jeff

1 mark scratches
2. read the conditions
3. look at the avp cr number readouts
4. look for running styles and a idea of the pace of race
5 pick lines based on best of last three comperable
distance and class (apv cr- total energy) and pace of race
6 re analyize lines
7. go to the primary line score ; total energy screen
and eliminate non contenders
8 look at the early late graph
9 go to the bottom line betting line
Bet the best two of the top three
10 wait for odds at 2 minutes
11 make my bets based on odds and match up
readouts

12 watch race
13 look at readouts again
14 see what my NJBets balance is
15 smile about 13-14 times every 20 race cycle

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Old 05-24-2008, 08:49 AM   #10
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Bill,That's also good at least this way people can get idea of what others are doing .Jeff
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