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[Tim Y]

One last word RELATIVELY having had a GIFT of a slow early pace/

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by tom

Not competitive? He won races 1,2,3 and 7,8 9.
Is he an early or late horse?

Very good question Tom

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by MIKE1121

The reason you never heard of Zones is becouse I created it as part of my method after reading Jim Crammers work on positions. The only people who I have talked about it to are people who visit this site and 2 friends of mine at the track I visit.

This is my method
Mike.

Absolutely magnificent stuff Mike! Your sharing here is most appreciated by me.

When I stop having an open/receptive mind to new things I will have for all intents/purposes stopped living. I also would have missed out on a 2 year experience with my mentor that turned my life around for the better and learning the matchup was just a little ripple in the ocean of knowledge,love and respect I gained from that man. All this starting at 45 years old!

Thank you Mike and keep knocking them dead man!

[Bill V.]

I thought you would like this

Here is Cost first running styles

and in KGEN half furlong readouts

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by MIKE1121

This is my method which I pay my rent with

Whether one agrees with him or not, to be able to do that for this reason is as good, maybe equal or better, than multiple 20 race cycles or statistical field test with real money to come to some conclusion of the premise.

Win or be Homeless.....to do that, it takes balls of iron and proof month in and month out that whatever premise is used , works, at least, for him.

Win consistantly or expect an eviction notice on your door..., start looking for a storage place......that's not talkin, THAT'S WALKIN.

Putting your life in the hands of your method or belief..., it's GOTS to work, at least, for him, if nothing or no one else at the very worst, to stay off the street.

Win or be Homeless...., wow, guts and belief in what one is doing.

And NOT being Homeless is your PROOF........wow...,...TITANIUM GONADS.

So how much MORE pressure, how much MORE field test intensity does a premise need for validation than THAT!?!?

Good going Mike, thanks for sharing.

VoodooFan

[Tim Y]

Horses, the very good ones, REACT to the pace in whatever means NECESSARY, WHEN THEY CAN.....but these represent the very best ones (under 1% of all horses out there)

[MIKE1121]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

Buy IT? "Early horses win far more than they should." Dr. William Quirin "Winning at the Races: Computer Discoveries in Thoroughbred Handicapping." Anyone reading much about handicapping, AND BELEIVING IT by data back up, knows this has remained consistent for years and years and years. Horses closer to the pace win far more than they should and you can't be up front unless you can run earlier OR you are a stakes horse (the very very few who have adapatable speed). Simple.

Those that get early position by default (lucky breaks, and you would realize how often that happens by watching thousands of breaks UP CLOSE, a few feet from the assistant starters), rarely repeat that luck.

Me and you are comming from this at 2 completely different paths. A lot of the things that you are stuck on I did research on over 10 years ago and have moved on and taken it to a higher level. What I mean by this is that I am looking at making PROJECTIONS, I have a set of data, ok, with this data what do I see will happen TODAY.If you study the pps you will see that horses have a range for BOTH position and fractional times, for some horses this range will be larger than for other horses and sometimes these ranges will lenghten or shorten for different reasons.This is a method to see both form cycles and class. When you understand this you then have taken your game to the next level becouse you are able to make a better prediction of what is going to happen TODAY which is the most important thing.


Mike.

[Tim Y]

Hey ****************** probably before your first visit to a race course. PROJECTIONS? part of the procedure since the 60's.

One thing that medial school and 30 years of clinical practice taught me: you don't stand still. Hereclitus spoke it well" "You never step in the same river twice." Things change and the one who doesn't understand that gets behind rapidly.
Funny stuff

[Tim Y]

My handicapping group actually used to have a "line" for those people who had it all figured out never re-evaluating what they were doing. When one would come across us there at the track with a computer, they would usually say something akin to "I have been handicapping 40 years and never_______(FILL IN THE BLANK)" to which we would chirp back:"No, you have handicapped ONE year and just repeated it 39 times."

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by MIKE1121

This is my method which I pay my rent with

ALL that counts.

From the teller window to your landlords pocket. You get to stay another month.

Neither teller or landlord care about your experience, expertise, or beliefs.

Teller : " Do you have the winning ticket? " or " this ticket is not a winner, sir . "

Landlord : " Do you have the rent money or is a trip to the courthouse for eviction notice going to be on my " to do " list today? "

Some successful people are successful because of natural talent, genius , goal oriented qualities, from successful family, had successful mentor,etc.

But there is a percentage of people who did only ONE thing, successfully, and simply did it over and over; as long as it continues to get the average result year in and year out. They simply expand it and/or duplicated it in the multitudes.

And then again, there are people who are talented, naturally gifted, have all type of factors in their favor, but the simple discipline of doing one thing, continuously and successfully that is proven to consistantly work thru time is absent from their personality....usually because they percieve it to be "small" or "insignificant", not understanding that a building is constructed from the ground up; the ground- filthy , dirty dirt. But no building can escape its necessity. Then assembled brick by brick.

They either have :the latest, the biggest, all the success all at once, or will do without. Even if some old stuff still works.

You see it in all disciples , the person with all the factors in their favor FAIL to capitalize or even use 20% where the person who does ONE thing well and consistantly uses 90%-110% of what he has always is either slightly ahead of them or ahead by leaps and bounds and they don't get why.

All they can do is ridicule.

What is success? From whose perspective?

Can a Billionaire with $300 billion dollars call a Millionaire with $30 million dollars " unsuccessful "?

Should he call him and say, " stop what you are doing , since you do not equal MY success, you are ridiculing yourself....your methods mock and expose your intellectual shortcomings...also giving light to how dated your premise is ".

VoodooFan