position or lengths

[VoodooFan]

Originally Posted by Charlie D

If Doc thought it was a waste of time, he wouldn't
have written loads of Manuals and Follow Up's, held Seminars, created Computer programs

If The Hat thought it was a waste of time, he would not have taught Richie about the Match U. If Richie thought it was a waste of time, he would not be teaching us about the Match Up

Because people believe it is worth their time trying to convince people, we have RDSS, we have Bill's forum with it's excellent library

Sharing and convincing are two different things.

Richie CALLED Mr. Bradshaw and offered NO RESISTANCE and ASSURED HIM of his desire to learn in what he had to teach, again , read the signature quote.

Doc solicited you IF YOU REQUESTED info and was on the mailing list. Manuals and Seminars HAD TO PAID FOR for those who wanted the info and thought is was worth paying for.

Bills manner in sharing information and RDSS is NOT hard selling(convincing) anybody on anything...read the manner in which he and Ted communicate, providing information to INTERESTED parties only, not detractors.

Talking to people who want to learn vs forcing yourself on entities that did'nt ask and are convinced of something else is totally different.

Also, advertising that you have something is simply soliciting for interested parties to investigate, to let the seekers know theres something out there.

Thats why there are restrictions on spam, unsolicited advertisement, unsolicited door to door selling religion or other things, and I seen post that restricted even putting flyers on cars.

Doc and others ventured to help the truck drivers when he started, and advertised a solution to those who would seek it, then provided sound reasons and logic, he DID NOT force himself on the mainstream .

When Doc, Hat ,Richie talk, they are TALKING TO people that want to learn, NOT to the detractionist.

Go find a Richie P post to see who he is arguing with in regards of the MatchUp.

Again, convincing is trying to sell something the customer does not want to buy, ask to buy, not in the market to buy and probably would'nt go out on his own to buy, and pretty much resistant cause he did'nt ask for it in the first place or was not in the market for it. You have to convince him this product is good, while what he is using is not so good. Convincing is selling ice to eskimos, selling fire to firefighters.

Some peoples hobbies are REALLY just to join something and find holes, not contructively mind you, just to be a rebel rouser or put their ego/intellect on a flag for everyone to pledge allegience to, cause I guess you got to do something to fill the time, a pasttime and hobby of a lot of people.

Sharing and solidifying , giving comfort in the reasoning to people who ask and want it is totally something else, but I feel it could be explained, and expounded to no end all for naught, this explanation is for the one or three that get it.

VoodooFan

[socantra]

Originally Posted by Tim Y

This reminds me of the outrageous outpouring of disdain that the creator of Ripley's Believe It or Not went through in the early thirties......................

"Shoot the messenger" is an old tried and true part of our culture because of it's commonality.

Do you ever, even for a moment, get over yourself?

Dick

[shipper]

Webster's definition of contentiousness: exhibiting an often perverse and wearisome tendency to quarrels and disputes; belligerent, meanspirited.

Suggestion: ignore one who engages in such behavior.

Result: the sound of one hand clapping...

[Charlie D]

Voodoo


Your right, it's a waste of time and energy trying to convince someone

ENTIRE methodology is dependent upon TWO major factors: the 2nd call and the final fraction. THAT'S it

Tim, it's all in Manuals, Follow Up's, I suggest you read them and learn what the Methodolgy is dependent on

[shoeless]

Bill,I dont agree with everything Tim says ,for instance I never used to concentrate on the 1st call but after Richie's posts I now do so.I thinkthat the 1st fraction can hurt the other early horseschances in the race.But I do believe in Tim's right to be able to post his opinion without having people give him a bunch of BS about it.Jeff

[Bill V.]

Hello Jeff


I posted my opinion that I think he is incorrect

I think the other posters did the same Personal admiration for fellow
members of the group is a nice trait


Bill

[socantra]

Originally Posted by shipper

Webster's definition of contentiousness: exhibiting an often perverse and wearisome tendency to quarrels and disputes; belligerent, meanspirited.

Suggestion: ignore one who engages in such behavior.

Result: the sound of one hand clapping...

Thank You! I shall take your advice, and I don't even care who you are talking about.

Dick

[RichieP]

Originally Posted by shoeless

Which horse if any would you think would get the lead out of the gate?

Hey Jeff
This just ran a couple hours ago. Here are the full pp's of the only 2 horses who have shown they will go to the lead at 1c.

Big bro who gets the lead here? Once he gets the lead will he be in his "comfort zone"?

[shoeless]

Little Bro I would say the 2 horse,I dont know if this is a good reason but one one of them is the 9 only got out that one time.I appreciate you putting that up there and look forward to your DVD as I feel the match up[by just using the form]is a necessary part of the handicapping process.Jeff


Tell your Mom I said hi and that Im sorry about the recent Yankees demise.I know you like him but I think it's the A Rod jinx.

[RichieP]

Jeff
OK let me turn you onto something Hat gave me. When we want to evaluate who is gonna get the lead among early runners Jim said evaluate the lines where the horse actually was ON THE LEAD!! Sounds simple enough.

OK so here are ALL the lines of the 2 and 9 when they were on the lead at the 1st call.